Tuesday, June 12, 2007

The Rasagolla of Odisha


Nobin Das, a local confectioner of Kolkata, earned the title "Rasagolla's Columbus," thereby likening him to the Italian navigator who supposedly discovered America. There are similarities between the two in ways more than one.

When Columbus set foot on American soil for the first time, America was already taken! The marauder cum navigator was encountered by Carribean natives, the Arawaks. They and the denizens of the five hundred or so groups of Amerindians and Carribean islanders had been living in the Americas for thousands of years before Columbus.

Unfortunately for Nobin Das, when he introduced, what was to become India's national sweet, to Kolkata, the Rasagolla too was already taken! By the time the recipe reached Nobin Das (which was either in 1868 or a few years earlier through another confectioner, Haradhan Moira), it was already a traditional item in Odisha - standard fare in the cities of Bhubaneswar and Cuttack, and of course in Puri, the medieval town that also gave the world the Kheeri (Kheer or Payasam)!

Savoring Rasagollas in Odisha is one unforgettable experience. Driving southwards on National Highway 5, just miles before the capital city of Bhubaneswar, lies the village of Pahala. The entire village - mind you, I mean each and every family - follows exactly the same business, selling Rasagollas, Chhenagaja, and Chhenapoda. There are dozens of identical looking stalls right along the highway. It would be heresy for an Odia not to stop by one of those stalls and try some of their delectable wares.

A newcomer, used to the standard "Bengali sweets", would hardly recognize the fluffy, cream-colored wonders, almost as big as tennis balls, that are sold at Pahala as Rasagollas. But that is what they are. As a matter of fact, those are exactly how Rasagollas were supposed to look like for centuries before Nobin Das started marketing their crumbly, chewy descendants, calling them his own.

Luckily for Nobin Das*, the Rasagollas from Pahala begin to sour hours after they are made and cannot be shipped elsewhere. Inside a refrigerator, they can stay for a day or so at best. That is also why some local folk enjoy them piping hot, although many others seem to prefer them cold! Either way, a Pahala Rasagolla is ticket to 100% gastronomic bliss!

Pahala is not the only place you can sink your teeth into those exotic dollops of cheese. Tucked deep inside rural Odisha, lies the town of Salepur. An unassuming little place otherwise, its Bikalananda Kar Rasagollas are simply divine! These ones look a lot like their Pahala counterparts and are equally famous in Odisha. But they are eaten by the Salepuri locals with crispy Puris as the accompaniment! Although it may seem unconventional at first, a mouthful of the combination would instantly tell the uninitiated how well the Rasagollas and Puris complement each other!

But Rasagollas are not the sole Odia creation. There are Chhenagaja, Chhenapoda, Rasabali, and Rasmalai, and much much more that Odisha has to offer. In fact much of its ancient culinary treasures are hidden even today, waiting to find their own Nobin Das's and Haradhan Moiras. Odisha, the state that gave the world Rasagolla and Kheeri is still undiscovered country, and the Mecca of gastronomic delights!



* Nobin Das discovered this medieval recipe and introduced it to Kolkatans, who were only used to the dry Sondesh. He also had the advantage of being located in Kolkata, where his product could easily be noticed. It was a certain Bhagwan Das Bagla who popularized the dish. Nobin Das's son, K. C. Das, figured out how to can them, and eventually became rich and famous!

109 comments:

  1. Orissa's cuisine is awesome!

    Your article about Orissa being the birthplace of the rasgulla makes a lot of sense. Everywhere in India, it is the smaller, whiter and harder rasgulla that is normally sold. Only in Orissa can one find the original version you describe.

    Great article!

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  2. Thanks! Very interesting!
    I now know that Rasgolla is one of the contributions of Orissa to the world.
    This theory may be authentic. Orissa was a flourishing civilasation long before other adjoining states of India. They had a major set back due to Ashoke's invasion. Even thereafter they recovered; as is evident from the reknowned temples at Puri, etc. all of which were built later. Moreover, Puri was selected by Sri Sankarachya as one of the four 'dhams' for re eatiblashing Hinduism.

    -Ansuman Dasgupta

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  3. Not to mention a very rich maritime history that Orissa has. Oriya navigators established empires in Burma and Indonesia.

    Very well written article too. I travel to Orissa regularly. The food is very impressive, especially if you have a sweet tooth. As you say, the rosogullas in Bhubaneswar are divine.

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  4. A splendid post indeed it is.

    You have neatly debunked one of many Bengali jingoistic claims.

    -Ankit Soni

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  5. Thanks for this awesome post, Connoisseur. However, we all respect for Roshogolla as it is of now. "the taste-compromised, chewy balls" are what we savour, not the "tasty, cream-coloured ones".
    irds have evolved from dinosaurs, but do we still call them dinosaurs? no, we love them for what they are now!

    Orissa was and is and will continue to be a great cultural hub, but the roshogollas will continue to be of Bangalis, as they were and are.

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  6. That analogy with dinosaurs is rather puerile (and am I alone in perceiving a hint of chauvinism in avrajyoti's remark?).

    A much more intelligent analogy is the pizza. By far, the most popular variety of pizza throughout the world is the cheesy, fattening, Pizza Hut brand. Yet, does it make the pizza a US midwestern dish or an Italian one?

    Unlike Italy and America which are separated by a vast ocean, Orissa, Assam, and even Bihar are right next to Bengal, and were earlier part of the Province of Bengal. Hence the confusion in case of the roshogolla.

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  7. BENGALI IS THE SWEETEST AND MOST POETIC LANGUAGE IN INDIA. BENGALI LITERATURE IS THE RICHEST IN INDIA. BENGALI CULTURE IS THE MOST SUPERIOR CULTURE IN INDIA. BENGALI GIRLS ARE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL IN INDIA. FORGET ORISSA EVEN NO OTHER STATE CAN BEAT BENGAL. THAT IS THE SAD TRUTH FOR U PPL.

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    1. If you write some thing in capital letter will not change the truth. we are not comparing which part of India has what specialty. as a Indian feel proud to have in our country only. Here some one say the truth. You don’t have Identity does not mean that people stop saying truth. Cool Down Mr Bengal Tiger . you are Behaving as a street Cat ….

      well I would like to answer on your silly Capital letter declarations.

      1. Sweetest Language: yes Bengali language is more feminine, but can not claim it is sweetest one. there is no official recognize on it. Telegu is sweeter and Odia is more formal language in India.
      2. Literature: as you know Gyanpeeth is the highest award in Inda. Kanada got Highest no of award . apart from Sanskrit, Telgu, Tamil, Kanada and Odia Litracture are started from more then 1500 years old. They are the classical language in India. So stop thinking great with out know the reality. Its your Ignorant. Check in your Bengal Library when you start having rich Literature . just during the British era. So benagali is niter a strong language nor got Classical status.
      3. Culture: its your dream , that your culture most superior ? big laugh on it. Do you know what is the meaning of culture. Is it come from the ruler who ruled you 1000s of years or by your ancestors who fought like Hero to save it.
      Do you have any Classical dance? Classical Music? Classical Architecture, Classical Painting, Classical Language? Big Zero. From where it will come , your ancestor live like slave of Mogal, Britsh and many inventors form ages. But the Hero of Kaling fought till their last breath and their A. Odia LANGAGE IS only Classical in Indo Aryan language Family, B. ODISSI Dance is Oldest survived CLASSICAL DANCE in INDIA, C. Patachitara from Odisha is one of the most famous Classical Painting in India, D. who don’t know the Kalingan architectures , Konark is the master piece and E. Odissi Music is claimed among the 3 classical Music India. Think Odisha is the only state where Language, Dance, Music, Painting , ancient Architecture all got the classical status. And we Proud to be the part of great India.
      On this Culture culum I will count other part of India. Karnataka I lave this state most and feel more cultural. There ancient architecture, dance, Music and as well Language are classical. Similarly Telegu, Tamil and Malaliam all are classical Language have there classical language.
      If you compare any other part of India , we can Say Assam has classicl Dance and the language is pretty old. Bengal copied the script from Assam.
      4. Beautiful Girls: Beauty is the perception I can not do any rational point on it. But can say in the Indian History the the biggest fight happed in 5000 years years due to any beautiful girls never falls in Bengal.
      Ravan took Mata Sita , She was not from Bengal, in mahavarata it is described that that era most beautiful was Panchali. And in real life Dropadi was not from Benga and Kaling was was happed due to Beauty Karubaki she was from Kalinga. And we heard in History about Amrapalli she was from morden Bihar.

      5. Your last Point FORGET ORISSA EVEN NO OTHER STATE
      No one can forget Odisha as it is the Soule of India. And all part including Bengal are the part of our beloved mother India. Its you Ignorance, so we all Indian pry Get well soon.






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    2. Er. Tanmaya K Panda: A big clap for your reply to Avrajyoti's "CLAIM". I bet after a few years, Bengalis will start claiming Puri and Lord Jagannath as theirs. No wonder they keep coming to Puri so much. Much Appreciated Tanmaya. Respect for you and Odisha. Cheers. Bande Utkal Janani

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    3. Orissa a divine land,one of the most richest state in India has enormous history than any other place in India.May you now that orrisa(former kalinga)is the state of god and protected by god.you Mr.bengal tiger you are telling this words to kingdom of god jagannath.in case of rasagolla before 1000 years this sweet was serve as bhog in ratha yatra and then after it came to Bengal. THINK BEFORE YOU WRITE

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  8. Avrajyoti's remarks definitely show chauvinism. Bengalis always want to claim Rasgullas to be their own, but find it hard to digest this fact.

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  9. All of you,

    mainly Avrajyoti and bengal tiger. comeon now. we all know it is the orissa which is origin. and u got to go to those villages to believe it. i cam e all the way down from sydney to orissa. what for? rasgullas. so stop ur bengali jingoism. it is an oriya dish.

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  10. Dear Bangla Tiger....

    We all love our specific cultures and come on now.... it would be hard to digest a belief that we have lived with from the day we were born - debuked ( accurately and autheticated in myriad ways).
    A fact is a fact and do be gracious in accepting the factthat Rasagollas are an Oriya dish and have been so for over a 1000 years!.... A little bitter pill as well the kheer ( Rice Pudding) so popular throughout India is again a creation of orissa.. The Khiri has beenmade in the Temple kitchens of Puri for over 2000 years.... and is still being made in almost the same method and recipe even today!....

    There are soo many things of Orissa ( I presume also of Assam) that have been over the years passed off blatently as those of Bengal...
    It is indeed time facts are set right for posteirity.. ( ask me and I shall tell!)

    Stop being naive about Bengal being th most superior Culture and Literature...we live in a Wolr dwhere we have lost civilisations..and some undiscovered... some we know very little off.. making such silly statements beatsthe purpose and olny exposes your lack of cultural awareness...... On alighter note... I may not have nay rejoinders ofr the claim that bengali women are the most beautiful.....i think a few truely are....! what with timeless eternal beauties like Suchitra Sen........and maharani Gayatri Devi.....

    Just relax Bengal Tiger....

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  11. Hey!!

    I was looking up in google about the origin of my sweet. My search ends here.

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  12. Haha! You invented something but thanks to unenterprising nature it was refined and spread by Bengalis. Bengali roshogulla is poetic and sophisticated like our language and culture. Oriya roshogulla is crude and tasteless.

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  13. Ha Ha...Watever the above person has said is really childish..huh.!! Its a legitimate Orissan contribution to Indian cuisine which was hijacked by chauvinistic Bengalis & Bangla Tiger chillax don't be so hyper keep your energy for other stuffs

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  14. Whoever say's oriya rasgolla is crude and tasteless, I would suggest them to come & eat Bhubaneshwar's Rasogulla...he will definately forget bengali rasgolla..afterall orgin matter's...It's utterly nonsense to claim anything without knowing the fact.

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  15. West Bengal is famous for language & culture all over India and the world. Most famous Indian scientists and poets are from Bengal. Who wrote Indian national anthem? Who got first Indian Nobel prize? Who was Netaji?

    Who cares about Orissa? Your language and food are lifted from Bengal.

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  16. Dear ananymous ill informed, half read bong bandhu,

    Don't be a laughing stock by displaying your ignorance. I dorespect the Bengali Culture..... but sadly I am sure you cannot go much beyond the past 200 years!..some vage mention of the pala kings...sirajudaulla....tant sarees, Baluchari silks...and Bankura horses!.... you Cultural renaisannce starts with Raja Ram Mohan Roy,Rabindra Nath Tagore......

    Well by the way do ur little research.. you'll be surprised to know Chaitanya Mahaprabhu originated from Orissa...So does Jayadeb. Our most venerated national hero was born and brought up in Cuttak... we are talking of Subash Chandra Bose here. Orissa has always been a Bong's favorite play ground especially Puri... and the culture of Puri has been predominrntly adopted by Bengal...
    oriyas were the first sea faring maritime state of India...whose influence til taday can be seenim the daily lives of people of Bali,Java, Sumatra abd Sri Lanka...not to forget the local comunities of Combodia, vietnam and Surinam!

    Orissa is the only state to boast of a Classical Dance form and a stream of Classical music.... hard to digest right? Well even the great Akbar had a singer from Orissa in his court in Delhi...along with Tansen...

    Before you talk of Bengali Culture get to know it first. Bengalis were the fist to get anglisised and a true Bengali is a perfect genlteman the quaint essential "Bhadralok" ....always willing to learn...with the best of ettiquete.....impecceble mannerisms....unfortunately you have none of these....half baked...rather raw Anonymous Bong!.....

    Chandan

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    1. OMG! Do you hear yourself? I honestly don't care about the roshogolla debate although I'm quite amused. But how can you boast of Orissa being the only state to have "a classical dance form and a stream of classical music" (don't know which form of music, I know the dance form Odishi) ? Are you Indian? Haven't you heard of the Southern states of Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Andhra! What about Mohini Attam, Bharatnatyam, Kuchipudi and Carnatic music? Nobody can beat these states when it comes to music and dance forms. And there were people like Chandidas, Krittibas Ojha in ancient Bengal before the Europeans came, but I don't want to go into that argument because I'm sure more Odiyas will galore and start claiming these scholars to be Odiya as well. *facepalm*
      And the name is Debjaani. Can't bother about all that signing in and signing up.

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    2. Debjaani:

      I'm not Chandan whom you replied to, but I think he meant classical dance AND music simultaneously.

      I concur with you that southern Indian states have genuine artistic dispositions.

      I am not an expert in this area, but I recall that there are 8 classical dance forms in India, Odissi being one of them. There also were 5 classical music genres originally, including Hindustani and Carnatic. However, four became extinct including Odissi. Our Raagas and Taalas are neither Hindustani nor Carnatic (although closer to Hindustani).

      FYI:
      FIVE CLASSICAL MUSIC GENRES: AVANTI, ODISSI (ODRA-MAGADHI), PANCHALI, HINDUSTANI, CARNATIC.

      EIGHT CLASSICAL DANCE FORMS: BHARATANATYAM, KATHAK, KUCHIPUDI, MANIPURI, SATTRIYA, KUCHIPUDI, MOHINIATTAM, KATHAKALI, ODISSI.

      Moreover, Odissi and Bharatanatyam are the only two Shaastra-dance forms - i.e. based on classical texts.

      However, please cease from putting words in his/her mouth. Nobody claims anything Bengali to be Odia. It SINGULARLY the other way around.

      Chandidas/Krittibas Ojha are of regional level only. Hardly anyone heard about them unlike - say - Kalidasa or Banabhatta or Harsha or ... Jayadeva (*wink*). But I heard that Krittibas Ojha was really a Maithili brahmin who Bongs started claiming as theirs. Os was it Vidyapati? I forgot, but I do happen to know that Maithili speakers from Bihar get hopping mad when Bongs falsely claim that one of their poets was a Bengali!

      *EYE BLEACH*

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      I don't want to go into that argument because I'm sure more Odiyas will galore and start claiming these scholars to be Odiya as well. *facepalm*
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      No Odia has ever claimed anything Bengali to be Odia. We'll NEVER claim Krittivas Ojha or Chandidas to be Odia. It's not in our nature (in any case regional poets are not worth it! We're quite content with our own Sarala Das!).

      On the contrary, it's you Bengalis who tried to usurp Odisha's eminent poet Jayadeva. Until scholars such as Thomas Donaldson from Cleveland, USA, prominent Bengali historians as well as the Archaeological Survey of India finally stepped in and refuted the lies propagated by chauvinistic Bengalis. ASI has erected a museum at Jayadev's birthplace in Puri and there are postage stamps commemorating his birth there.

      Although Netaji was born in Cuttack, Odissa, we always respect him as a Odisha-born Bengali patriot. Quite unlike you folks who don't refer to Chaitanya Mahaprabhu as a Bengal-born Odia ... which Chaitanya in fact was, his family (whose surname 'Mishra' is typical Odia brahmin surname but nonexistent in Bengal) emigrating from Jajpur in Odissa. While our two languages, cultures, festivals, cuisines are so alike, herein lies a crucial difference between us Odias and you Bengalis.

      Maybe you should be reaching out for that facepalm again... 8)

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  17. Proud to be BengaliJune 23, 2009 at 1:43 AM

    Sala udera ki bolchhen. Mr. Chandan here is the comparison,

    Kolkata population 1.5 crore
    Bhuboneshwar 1.5 lakh

    Famous ude Biju Patnaik

    Famous bengali Tagore, Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay, Satyendra Nath Bose, Amartya Sen, Ishwar Chandra Vidyasagar, Kazi Nazrul Islam, Ishwar Chandra Vidyasagar, Subhash Chandra Bose, Bipasha Basu, Hemant Kumar, Ravi Shankar.

    Bengali language rich and poetic.

    Oriya language is copied from Bengali language.

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  18. Dear 'Proud to be Bengali'

    Just relax will you.....

    We are talking about a sweet and stick to that......

    Sure bengal has produced some of the finest thinkers in the recent past.....but to say Oriya is a cpoy of Bangla...is pushing it a bit too far......

    What explanation do you have to say about how different the scripts are..... Infact Bangla and Assamiya look so much closer.....

    Scholers of Langauge have always claimed that Odiya is in it's true form least influenced by Hindi or Urdu and highly Sankritised in nature...


    Do some research "proud to be Bengali" you would find out how rich the langauge and culture of Orissa is..... Do you have any Scholer or writer of repute prior to Rabindra nath Tagore..... ( By the way he loved Orissa as much as Bengal)....

    We could claim that with Jayadeva from the 12th Century, Saral Das, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu ( if you did not know his parents and Grand parents migrated from Jajpur in Orissa to Nawadweep in West Bengal..).

    You want to talk about today... You have Sitakanta Mohapatra, Prathiba Ray, Manoj Das and ask me for names and you shall have them.

    Bengalis are known to be well read... and make it a point to get to the details of things...and intellectuals....I say this as have many dear Bangla friends..... I am afraid .. you make a mockery by calling yourself "Proud to be Bengali"..... I don't see that famous trait of being a "Bhadrolok " in you......No hard feelings , a fact is a fact ...just like Sandesh is from West Bengal....so is Rasgulla an integral part and a delicacy orignating from Orissa.....

    Chandan

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  19. Chandan,

    There are some factual errors in your comments. The Chola empire from the south was the biggest naval power in India and it's influence extended all the way up to Vietnam (Kingdom of Champa). In India, the Chola empire touched the Ganges river. The Kalinga empire was certainly second to it. You must give credit to where it belongs.

    But your state has a lot of history & culture to be proud of:

    1. Buddha could have been from Orissa (some, including an very prominent German scholar, say Kapileshwar near Bhubaneswar, not Kapilavastu, is his birthplace). The first two Buddhists, who offered Buddha food when he opened his eyes after 40 days were Oriya too - Tapasu and Bhallika.

    2. Orissa reached the pinnacle of maritime glory in ancient/medieval times. Even today, the Borobudur temple in Indonesia and many stupas in Myanmar contain sculptures of Oriya navigators called Sadhabas sailing ships called Boitas (Vahitra in Sanskrit).

    3. As you say, Chaitanya's parents were from Orissa who emigrated to Bengal due to a dispute with the local king. Jayadeva was an Oriya too, born in Kenduli Sasan near Puri. Netaji belonged to an eminent Bengali family from Orissa.

    4. Odissi was a form of classical singing just like Carnatic and Hindustani are today. It resembled Hindustani more than Carnatic, but was a separate genre in its own right. Unlike the other two, it has become extinct now. Akbar had a singer from Orissa (was it a Mohapatra?) besides
    Tansen.

    5. Orissa has left a cultural and linguistic legacy in South East Asia. The Cholas did not speak Sanskrit, the Kalingas did. Words like 'machha' (fish) or 'Bahasa' (language) in South East Asian languages are of Orissa origin.

    6. Huien Tsang mentioned three universities. The ruins of two of them, Taxila and Nalanda, are well known. The third was a mysery. Only recently they discovered it - the ruins of Puspagiri University in Orissa. Buddha's bones were buried here too.

    7. The Puri town was called 'Dantapuri' in ancient times. The tooth relic of Buddha was housed there. A certain Oriya king Guhashiva shipped it to safety in Sri Lanka fearing its destruction. Now it is housed in Kandy.

    8. The claim that Oriya descended from Bengali is total crap. Oriya language is closer to Ardhamagadhi, the common ancestor of Oriya, Bengali, Assamese, and Maithili. But Oriya words like "achhi" for "is there" and "achhanti" for "are there" resemble the original Prakrit and Sanskrit ("achhi"="asti" and "achhanti"="santi") more than the Bengali "achhe" and "achhen". Simple Oriya words like "baahar" for "outside" are more mainstream (even in Hindi it is "baahar"). Bengali "berie" for "outside" shows degeneracy. Bengalis "eat" water. Oriyas, Marathis, Punjabis, drink water - the verb being"pee". So how could Oriya have possibly descended from Bengali?

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  20. So in response to our Bengali friend's claim that Bengal has produced so many famous people, but Orissa none, I would say that:

    Bengal is like Europe, it witnessed a small period of greatness in history - the British period.

    Orissa is like India - an ancient culture whose influence was hobbled during the British period.

    Let us also not forget that there are 5 times as many Bengalis in the world as Oriyas.

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  21. A little known fact that would make Oriyas, and indeed all Indians proud (and also deflate Proud_to_be Bengali's misplaced flag-waving) is this:

    Between 1907-1910, a certain Baron Empain from France commissioned a world-famous architect, Alexander Marcel, to build a palace in Cairo, Egypt.

    This palace, known as Baron's Palace is located in the finest residential areas of Egypt, called the Heliopolis Baron's palace is one of the finest early examples of the use of concrete and a major tourist attraction in Cairo (but who can compete with the pyramids?).

    Marcel modeled the palace based on Orissan temple architecture. Look at the pictures below:

    http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/baronspalace1.jpg

    http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/baronspalace2.jpg

    This one looks like a figure from Konark:
    http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/baronspalace3.jpg

    http://www.usefilm.com/images/3/3/5/1/3351/858109-medium.jpg

    http://images.absoluteastronomy.com/images/encyclopediaimages/p/pi/pict0051.jpg

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  22. oriya people have always been very opportunistic...the hoteliers in Puri and the pandas in the temple are the best examples...here was an Indian sweet that the world identified with India and to some extent bengal...very systematically a gang of oriya chauvinists are making a synchronised attempt to claim some sweet that they might have been making to be the originator of rosogolla..thankfully a thousand people saying the same lie dont make it a truth...also if the oriya rosogolla was so good how come it did not become popular enough...

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  23. oriya people have always been very opportunistic...the hoteliers in Puri and the pandas in the temple are the best examples...here was an Indian sweet that the world identified with India and to some extent bengal...very systematically a gang of oriya chauvinists are making a synchronised attempt to claim some sweet that they might have been making to be the originator of rosogolla..thankfully a thousand people saying the same lie dont make it a truth...also if the oriya rosogolla was so good how come it did not become popular enough...there are so many Indian and international tourists who keep visiting orissa...they should have found the orissa sweetmeat equivalent of rosogolla to be better and spoken about it...why is it that if you ask 100 Indians as to what they think is the origin of rosogolla...95 of them would say it to be bengal

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    1. Then who told you to come to Odisha. There is always a difficulty when you go to other states. You should be wise enough such that you should not get cheated. If we will complain in same manner that proves nothing.

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    2. Who started this odia or bengalis.First know then tell

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  24. You've obviously had a terrible experience in Puri with the obnoxious pot-bellied Pandas and some sneaky hoteliers. But please don't take it out on the entire population of Orissa.

    (PS: Don't tell me you didn't notice how much better rasgulla tastes in Puri than in Kolkata.)

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  25. las, Anonymous... I wish your words were true....and oriyas would have been opportunistic....

    Why cling onto to something that does not belong to West bengal??? Rasgulla has been made for centuries in the jagannath temple of Puri and in traditional houseolds across coastal orissa...... We have never clamaid Sandesh to be from Orissa.... nor many a delectable dishes from bengal....? Please do a bit of reading, research and study before you claim something as your own...and cling onto it like achild who would'nt give away soemthing thta he likes but eveidnetly does'nt belong to him/ her.

    Chandan

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  26. I was shocked at the blanket attack on the people of a state by one person who posted on August 19, 2009 at 10:21 AM and 10:23 AM based on one single experience. Whoever you are, know his: there are good people and bad people in every, state, town, city and village of India. Please keep that in mind.

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  27. im just shocked that nobody posted the damn roshogolla recipe..............people....after all this fight?!!!

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  28. Time n again having saddened by the disputed fact that "Rasogolla" to be a Bengali proprietary, finally I am elated with heaps of joy to find it's debut at Odissa!

    I had always believed to have known that Rasogolla originated from Salepur...just because Bengalis reached far and wide..thanks to the British rule, they did a good job in getting it to their name.

    Sondesh, Malai Chop is Bengali and there is no denying from that fact.

    I thoroughly enjoyed reading this thread. Got to know so much more.

    As a hard core Oriya, I am here not to pass any narcissitic comment but to appretiate the fact that Bengali is the sweetest Indian language, Bengali women are the most beautiful but "Rasogolla " is an authentic Odiya dish and that's undisputed!

    So my fellow Bong babus....rationally respect other cultures and cuisines which is when people shall respect you.

    Else like English is giving its way, n Sanskrit is extinct, you too shall meet the same fate.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasgulla

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  29. This is the saddest piece of writing ever seen on the Indian gastronomic and cultural front.

    just changing the name from roshogolla to rasagulla won't make it Intellectual property of Oriyas.

    Rashogolla, like the most sweets in India will always and forever be a Bengali thing. Remember that Bengali households still are known for their amazing food culture and this fact is known world-wide :)

    is this the only piece of heritage that you can show off to the world? Seriously there are better things to latch onto :)

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    1. Kamonasish,

      You are required to providing a rebuttal as all your nonsense has been effectively refuted. We're waiting.

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  32. a thing coming form "orissa" doesn't make it oriya :)
    i am from orissa too but i am not oriya :)

    chaitanna mahaprabhu did come from GEOGRAPHICAL ORISSA but back then there was no orissa, are we forgetting this?

    and your dear lord ASHOKA the great wasn't your hero too until he defeated your so called "kalinga empire". he was a scavenger of kalinga and not a king :)

    your bali, sumatra etc "J(y)ATRAS" came form LORD ASHOKA'S INVASION of your pillage state.

    tanSEN was bengali my dear friend, so were a lot of other people! want to see the entire list as it stands today? so was subash chandra bose and sri aurobindo :)

    and i can name a million others and i am proud to say our greateness can be exerted beyond our national borders.
    we are the fifth largest speakers!

    here are two lists to shut your mouth

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_people

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bengalis

    these guys are not just making India proud but half the world knows about these guys dude :)
    c'mon

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    1. "just changing the name from roshogolla to rasagulla won't make it Intellectual property of Oriyas."

      Likewise, changing the name from 'rasagolla' to 'roshogolla' won't make it an intellectual property of Bengalis either.


      "chaitanna mahaprabhu did come from GEOGRAPHICAL ORISSA but back then there was no orissa, are we forgetting this?"

      Actually yes there was. The phrse "Odisha Rajya" was inscribed in the Jagannath temple walls before Chaitanya's birth.


      "tanSEN was bengali my dear friend, so were a lot of other people!"

      No Tansen was not. His real name was Tannu PANDEY, he sang in Brajbhasha (an earlier Hindi dialect) and his samadhi (tomb) is in Gwalior.


      "Remember that Bengali households still are known for their amazing food culture and this fact is known world-wide :)"

      You are so wrong ... the smiley face at the end of your sentence notwithstanding. North Indian and South Indian are main two varieties. Bengalis, despite being 20% of the population of South Asia never had a cuisine of their own.


      "these guys are not just making India proud but half the world knows about these guys dude :)"

      There are many who make India proud, not just Bengalis. You are 20% of South Asia, you had better have some contribution.


      "sambalpuri is such a cute language! why are you guys stomping it down to non-exitence and these guys want their language to prosper just like yours. give them their due!"

      The difference between Sambalpuri and standard Odia is far less than the difference between Sylheti and Bengali. Yet, you thump your chest when 90% of Indian restaurants in UK are run by Sylhetis from Bangladesh, claiming that Bengalis have an "amazing food culture" and that that "fact" was "known worldwide". You cannot have it both ways!


      "and i can name a million others and i am proud to say our greateness can be exerted beyond our national borders."

      Trust me, outside our "national borders" nobody cares.


      "we are the fifth largest speakers!"

      Yet you accomplished so little. Quite an embarrassment, don't you think?


      "and your dear lord ASHOKA the great wasn't your hero too until he defeated your so called "kalinga empire". he was a scavenger of kalinga and not a king :)"

      Nobody spoke of Ashoka being Odisha's hero. However, that his conversion to Buddhism at Dhauli (Odisha) is one of the major points in world history that took place in Odisha. That is certainly something to be proud of. Besides, Odisha has a very strong Buddhist legacy - unlike Bengal.


      "your bali, sumatra etc "J(y)ATRAS" came form LORD ASHOKA'S INVASION of your pillage state."

      The Bali & Sumatra yatras have nothing to do with Ashoka. It has much to do with 'pillage state' Odisha's past maritime glory.

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  33. we bengalis have won pretty much every award in the world stage
    you name it we have it and we are damn proud of what we have :)
    its the only country in the world which took rebellion because it couldn't speak its mother tongue and it won! and won so hard that the UN had to adopt that day as the international language day, which celebrates languages from all over the world.

    the regular oriya isn't sweet at all, its rather very harsh, its rather the languages like sambalpuri and languages near the west bengal border where the oriya dialects turn sweeter. would you not agree?

    sambalpuri is such a cute language! why are you guys stomping it down to non-exitence and these guys want their language to prosper just like yours. give them their due!

    oh, btw, i forgot to mention YOUR BEST CM (infact my best CM too, one of the best CMs our country ever had) doesn't even speak Oriya!

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    1. CLASSICAL LANGUAGE ODIAFebruary 22, 2014 at 7:04 PM

      the regular oriya isn't sweet at all, its rather very harsh, its rather the languages like sambalpuri and languages near the west bengal border where the oriya dialects turn sweeter. would you not agree?

      Watch your mouth lady. How dare you speak about one of India's classical languages in this manner? Have you looked at your own mongrel language, a bastardisation of Ardhamagadhi (our common ancestor) and tribal Santali?

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  34. TO MISTER http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/baronspalace1.jpg


    did you know that the FAMOUS SEARS TOWER is architectured by another bengali?

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  35. If Bengal is so great why don't you fucking GO HOME you ugly darky stinky fish eating unpatriotic bastards??? Why is your precious little Kolkata a shithole worse than Somalia???

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  36. To that bitch Ridhima Mishra:

    Whatever happened to you bitch? You were picking on your smaller states but the moment an outsider arrives you disappear? How cowardly just like a typical Bengali traitor.

    Who the fuck said that Sears Towers was "architectured" by a Bengali moron? The chief architect was Bruce Graham. I have been there a few times myself and I see the name Bruce Graham. There was a Bangladeshi engineer involved. But that does not make him the chief architect to justify your incessant bragging, you cheap cunt.

    Who the fuck told you that Tansen was a Bengali, you worthless credit-stealing Bengali jingo piece of shit? Tansen was born in Gwalior, his samadhi is in Gwalior. He sang in Brajbhasha, a dialect of Hindi. Some of his descendants live in Pakistan.

    OK so you Bengalis won a lot of prizes because of numerical superiority. But the Tamils outdid you worthless commies with one-third the population. Who the fuck said your language is "sweet"? Bitch, Tamil is listed as a classical language in India along side Sanskrit. Bengali is nowhere close.

    If simple numerical superiority gives you bragging rights over other states, then the crow should have been our national bird, not the peacock!

    All you have got is courtesy the British. The famous landmarks of Kolkata are Victoria Memorial, Howrah Bridge and Writer's Building, all British gifts. All that you did was cover those landmarks with a load of paan spit and urine. Just like the rest of that shit hole you made of Kolkata.

    That British ass-licker Tagore got the prize instead of Allama Iqbal because Tagore sucked British dick. You parochial jingos did not even participate in the freedom struggle before the partition of Bengal. Your neghboring state Jharkhand was among the first to take up arms for the freedom of our motherland when you worthless wimps did nothing. Even the Kolkata revolt in 1857 was led by Mangal Pandey from Gorakhpur UP.

    Your contribution to Indian culture before the British came is ZILCH, NADA, CIPHER, ZERO! You have no famous people, no classical music or dance, and no ancient temples before the British came. All that you fucked up worthless commies ever did was drive the Tata Nano away, celebrate the "liberation" of Tibet and support the Chinese invasion in 1962.

    So go fuck yourself you worthless bitch!

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  37. which state u r from?

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  38. See this link.Read what is written about RASAGOLA.

    http://www.indiatouristspots.com/cities/kolkata.html

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  39. To know more about origin of Rasagola and its connection with Lord Jagannath temple Puri.Odisha ,visit the following links:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasgulla
    http://www.uppercrustindia.com/oldsite/12crust/twelve/season8.htm
    http://www.indiacurry.com/desserts/ds014rasgulla.htm
    http://dietamerica.net/Desserts/1118.html
    http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/f5ee1/109d5f/2/#1886915
    http://www.indiamarks.com/guide/Rasgulla-A-traditional-syrup-based-dessert-of-Bengal/10088/
    http://www.indiatouristspots.com/cities/kolkata.html
    http://www.livestrong.com/article/49345-nutrition-information-rasgulla/
    http://ponniyinselvan.in/forum/history-discussions/origins-indian-food-ii-rossagolla-7225.html
    http://www.sonzyskitchen.com/tag/recipe/
    http://www.ncfolk.org/ncfood/CarysLittleIndia.aspx
    http://www.bangalinet.com/rasgulla.html
    http://www.kalingatimes.com/orissa_news/news3/20080716-Lord-Jagannath-returns-to-main-temple.htm
    http://www.idiscoverindia.com/Travel_Puri/Puri_facts_figure.html
    http://lifestyle.iloveindia.com/lounge/history-of-rasgulla-2327.html

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  40. To end all controversy and with due regard to all Bengli,I putting up a link to a video of IBNLive.com on the Origin of Rasagola and the largest Rasogola market of the world,Pahal in Odisha. My Bengali friends should not complain because the reporter of this video Sri Bikramjit Ray is a Bengali.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvdh9eB4oqU

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  41. Let us be respectful while putting up the fact.No amount of shouting and filthy language shall bury the fact.Let see what two websites relating to Bengali tells about Origin of Rasagola.Rasogola originated from Lord Jagannath Temple,Puri,Odisha is an established fact.
    http://www.bangalinet.com/rasgulla.html
    http://www.indiatouristspots.com/cities/kolkata.html

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  42. I'm not interest5ed in your local cuisine. I want to know that that credit stealing Bengali jingo piece of horse shit claimed that Tansen was Bengali. Tansen was born and died in Gwalior, his hometown and sang Dhrupads in Brajbhasa (Hindi dialect). Some famous Qawwali singers residing in Pakistan may be his descendants. How the hell is Tansen Bengali according to Bengali commie rat Ridhima Mishra?

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  43. Tansen real name was Tannu Pandey from MP. Bengali my foot!!

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  44. KAMONASISH AAYUSH MAZUMDARFebruary 18, 2010 at 1:53 PM

    Ridhima Mishra/Rishima Mishra = Kamonasish Aayush Mazumdar

    (tried to use false name)

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  45. KAMONASISH AAYUSH MAZUMDARFebruary 18, 2010 at 2:27 PM

    Utkal University student

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  46. Well then Kamonashish you pathetic commie rat why don't you come back from hiding and explain how Tansen became a Bengali you fucked up credit stealing stinky fish eating prick?

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  47. Are you seeing the Gwalior ODI, you Bong credit stealing asshole Kamonashish? I lived there and prooouuudd of it!

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  48. I am visiting this blog one last time. That dark, stinky fish eating, bragging, parochial bastard: Kamonashish Aayush Mazumdar is your typical Bengali - endless bragging about everything Bengali when it is safe, but vanishing with his tail tucked behind when a challenger enters the scene.


    I burst into laughter the first time around when I saw that dirty Bengali rat Kamonashish Aayush Mazumdar's comment claiming that the great musician Tansen who sang in Brajbhasa (Hindi dialect), who was born in Gwalior, whose Samadhi is in Gwalior, and whose real name was Tannu Pandey, was a Bengali.



    Kamonasish Aayush Mazumdar is a typical boastful, parochial, Bengali coward!



    PS: I'll post on some Bengali "achievements" sometime soon.

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  49. KAMONASISH AAYUSH MAZUMDARApril 10, 2010 at 8:48 PM

    U can send email 2 Kamonasish Aayush Mazumdar : DEVILISHANGELRANA@GMAIL.COM

    Utkal University BBA student 2009 pass out. So if u come to BBSR from MP u can visit him.

    His snap: http://www.chainetwork.net/profile/KamonasishAayushMazumdar

    (PS all info is publicly available)

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  50. Famous Hindu mathematicians, poets, and philosophers: Aryabhatta (Kerala), Aryabhatta (Bihar), Bhaskara (Andhra), Brahmagupta (Gujarat), Susruta (North), Panini (Punjab), Kalidas (MP), Tansen (MP), Baiju Bawra (MP), Jayadeva (Orissa), Guru Nanak (Punjab), Buddha (Bihar), Mahavira (Bihar), Vatsyayana (Gujarat), Kabir (UP), Amir Khusrau (MP), Ramanuja (Tamil Nadu), Adi Shankara (Kerala), Mirabai (Rajasthan).

    NOT EVEN ONE FAMOUS BENGALI!


    Famous Indian kings and emperors: Ashoka (Bihar), Chandragupta Maurya (Bihar), Samudragupta (UP), Bimbisara (Bihar), Raja Raja Chola (Tamil), Akbar (Delhi), Krishna Deva Raya (Karnataka), Tipu Sultan (Andhra), Shivaji (Maharashtra), Kanishka (North India), Prithviraj Chauhan (Rajasthan), Vikramaditya (MP), Rani Lakshmiba of Jhansi (MP), Rajendra Chola (Tamil), Zamorin (Kerala), Ranjit Singh (Punjab).

    NOT EVEN ONE PROMINENT MONARCH FROM BENGAL!


    Famous Indian battlegrounds: Kurukshetra (Haryana), Panipat (Haryana), Haldi Ghati (Rajasthan), Pataliputra (Bihar), Puru-Alexander (Punjab), Vijayanagar-Bahmani (Andhra-Karnataka), Ashoka-Kalinga (Orissa).

    NOT ONE SITE IN BENGAL!


    Ancient Indian religious and philosophical centers: Varanasi (UP), Tirupati (Tamil Nadu), Haridwar (Uttarakhand), Nashik (Maharashtra), Ujjain (MP), Dwarka (Gujarat), Puri (Orissa), Prayag (UP), Mathura (UP), Ayodhya (UP).

    BUT NOT A SINGLE ANCIENT CITY FROM BENGAL!


    Classical Dances in India: Bharatanatyam (Tamil), Odissi (Orissa), Kuchipudi (Andhra), Manipuri (North East), Mohiniaattam (Kerala), Sattriya (Assam), Kathakali (Kerala), Kathak (Hindi states).

    BUT NOT A SINGLE CLASSICAL DANCE FROM BENGAL!


    Ancient UNESCO world heritage sites: Mahabodhi (Bihar), Hampi (Karnataka), Ellora (Maharashtra), Ajanta (Maharashtra), Mahabalipuram (Tamil Nadu), Konarak (Orissa), Khajuraho (MP).

    Medieval UNESCO world heritage sites: Qutb Minar (Delhi), Taj Mahal (UP), Red Fort (Delhi).

    Majestic palaces and forts: Lake palace, Udaipur (Rajasthan), Amber Fort (Rajasthan), Gwalior Fort (MP), Hawa Mahal (Rajasthan), Jantar Mantar (Delhi, Jaipur).

    Ancient universities and monasteries: Nalanda (Bihar), Taxila (Punjab/Pak), Ratnagiri (Orissa), Sanchi Stupa (MP), Vikramashila (Bihar).

    BUT NOT A SINGLE MONUMENT IN BENGAL!


    Bengalis are 15-20% of the entire population of South Asia. Yet they accomplished NOTHING until the British came and gifted them with Kolkata city and modern education. These Bengali macaques profited from British invasion when the rest of India was ruined.

    All Kolkata monuments are British gifts: Victoria memorial, Howrah bridge, St. Paul's Cathedral, Esplanade, etc. All the Bengali wimps did was to cover them up with a ton of paan spit and urine.

    Tagore, Bankim Chatterjee, Jagdish Bose - all a result of sycophancy towards the British. British ass-licker Tagore wrote Jana Gana Mana only to kowtow to the British overlords. The only truly "patriotic" poem he wrote was for ANOTHER country (Bangladesh). The rest of the Bengali chimpanzee "freedom fighters" were only motivated by the partition of Bengal. They hadn't raised a finger during 1857 when Mangal Pandey of UP had to lead the uprising in Kolkata.

    Now that the British are gone, all these ugly, dark, commie monkeys like Kamonasish Aayush Mazumdar manage to do it convert Kolkata into a garbage-ridden, stinking shithole and STEAL CREDIT FROM OTHER STATES, like claiming that Tansen was Bengali!

    So Kamonasish Aayush Mazumdar, you useless, bragging, Bengali bastard, where the hell have you disappeared? Wherever you're hiding don't ever forget your official Bengali status within India: you are well beneath the rest of us civilised Indians. You belong right at the bottom of the national pecking order.

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    1. The first mutiny was done by the Paikas under Buxi Jagabandhu in 1817 and then by Veer Surendra in 1827...this was perhaps very accurate to the fact that...Lord Dalhousie starte his invasion towards Odisha it being a richer n a bigger state than Bengal..the Howrah bridge was supposed to be extinct had not it been an Odia polic officer from forensic department who notices it..it was during the bangladesh war..I can't name him but he is a retired DIG very close to me ...

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  51. So you keep all the PRO-ORIYA comments where girls are being called as bitch alive but delete every other comment on page?

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  52. Stop whining bitch! You don't like the truth about your state exposed, one lousy bit, do you? You're just another short, dark, commie, slimy rat. That "girl" is actually a guy (Kamonashish Aayush Mazumdar) who deleted his own comments and hid behind a woman's name (which it so typical of you Bengali cowards).

    Why don't you stinking, unpatriotic Bong scum pack your rags, err... I meant bags, and just go back to your precious shithole, Kolkata?


    All patriotic Indians are welcome to visit Gwalior (famous for the awesome fort, tomb of TANSEN, Jai Vilas Palace (Scindia), dam, paintings, cuisine, and also textiles.

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  53. I disapprove attacks on skin colour and food habits but I am happy that even North Indians are aware that Bengalis try to claim the rightful heritage of other states like Tansen.

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  54. FACT-1 The Hindu female deity Lakshmi is served rasagollas on the last day of the annual Rath Jatra festival at Puri. This is a 600+ year old tradition called NILADRI BIJAY.


    FACT-2 The word cheese is derived from Latin Caseus that comes from Sanskrit Kaasi indicating that chhena was made in India in ancient times.


    FACT-3 Even in the rest of Bengal, outside Kolkata, it is the larger, browner Oriya version of rasagolla that is prepared. The K. C. Das/Ganguram chewy “sponge” rasagolla is confined only to Kolkata.


    FACT-4 The only Portuguese cheese in Kolkata is the Bandel cheese which is very salty and smoked. It is available in New Market, and Anglo-Indians usually buy it. It is totally different from sweet chhena dishes.


    FACT-5 Even the Bengali dish Sondesh predates the arrival of the Portuguese.


    FACT-6 All true Portuguese origin dishes – Bibenca, Vindaloo (Vin de Alho in portuguese), Kaju (Caju in Portuguese.), Batata (Batata in Portuguese), have Portuguese sounding names. But chhena does not sound like Queijo in Portuguese.


    FACT-7 The Portuguese arrived in Baleshwar, Orissa at the same time as Bengal.


    FACT-8 Even KT Achaya merely hypothesized Portuguese origin (and was wrong). It took a chauvinist Bengali writer Chitrita Banerjee to stake a formal Bengali claim to the rasagolla. Her book is so narrowly focussed on Bengali readership that she freely uses Bengali terms everywhere, making it difficult for non-Bengalis to even read.


    FACT-9 Even if the Portuguese were to have introduced chhena to India (which is wrong), the timeline is enough for the Puri temple cooks to have picked it up and incorporated it into the temple cuisine.


    FACT-10 Rasagolla has been cooked in Salepur for one and a half centuries.


    FACT-11 Milk curdling from whey was done way back in 12th century India (See P. Arundhati's book," The Royal Life in Manasollasa,", Sundeep Prakashan, 1994.)


    FACT-12 Rasagolla is made from whey-curdled milk. Even if KT Achaya was correct, the Portuguese would simply have shown Bengalis how to curdle milk from acid. It has no bearing on the history of rasagolla.
    CONCLUSION The Bengali story of Haradhan Moira and K C Das inventing rasagolla is a DISHONEST LIE PROPAGATED BY A SECTION OF PAROCHIAL BENGALIS.

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  55. i just took a back while reading all the comments in the rasagolla story. being a social scientist i keep my primary interest in odisha studies/research. Though rasogolla is not really related to any of my core research but yes, as a sign of popular cuisine, i wonder how people of the great two eastern indian regions are still living in the imagined past! thanks to the democratic public space called blogspot who has brought up the dialogues, but they are absolutely trash. i wonder how the issues of ethnicity and identity are getting more vulnerable. it is a SORRY STATE OF AFFAIR! i guess by now Odias know their 'reasons of backwardness' in being unterprising in all fields. so no justification or retaliation are the timely answer to the non-odias (if not all sections of Bengalis). if you read carefully the colonial history of Odisha, it has been only a section of non-odias who tried to appropriate the cultural ethos of odisha. so to conclude with lot of sweetness of rasagolla, i would urge everyone here who have read the entire responses diverting the story of rasagolla (like many such stories of origin potato, tomato or even red chilly), to caution the blogger not to be too parochial in its blog. so dear blogger next time be careful before you discover the origin of anything!

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  56. *YAWN*.

    Sharmila, you must be a self-flagellating Odia.

    The phrase "unenterprising Odias" is a boring cliche. While I agree that Gujaratis, Marwaris, Punjabis, and Tamilians are enterprising, but do you really think that Maharashtra for instance, is so industrially ahead because Marathis are enterprising?

    If you would have read carefully, you would have discovered that some North Indians also contributed, siding with the Odias in exposing the handful of Bengalis who posted 100% parochial bullcrap.

    Those parochial Bengali scum happen to be 1. BANGLA TIGER, 2. Proud to be Bengali, 3. Anonymous (posting on 7 April 2009, 4 May 2009, 19 Aug 2009), 4. KAMONASISH AAYUSH MAZUMDAR.

    The response from the Odia side is quite a bit more civilized in comparison.

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  57. my dear Anonymous(who are u actually ?? your name gives me no interest to reply even),
    anyway,

    thanks for your valuable time to read this 'self-flagellating' odia's 'civilised' response. and i just feel pity for you as others have already felt. i really dont have to read who is enterprising/siding/exposing! it is the time of self-reflexivity. and i am sure you and all your tiger friends have no sense of security and crave for false ethnic and patriarchal identity for you are the 'anonymous' looser! a featherbrained response it is after all. better you get back with your parochialism and celebrate all your 'greatness'! i wish British could rule the great capital forever!

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    1. Hahaha your Bangla no way odia

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  58. Are we quite done with the histrionics yet, sweetheart or are we going to see yet another bout of verbal diarrhoea?

    I certainly hope that you didn't mean it when you wished for British rule. For that would make you a certified pedigreed lunatic.

    P.S.: You will find that the correct spelling is "loser", not "looser".

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  59. Hi,

    This is for the guy who posted from Gwalior.

    I hope that it is OK if I copy one of your posts (which I found to be highly informative) and paste it elsewhere.

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  60. Enjoy Rasagolla, forget where it came from. Just have it wherever you find it. We guys really don't have time to brag over its origin. We all like Rasagolla. I also find it interesting that someone has rightly pointed out for not having the recipe so far. Let's concentrate on that.

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  61. Sorry but I disagree.

    Should we really forget where rasgullas came from? If so, let us forget where potatoes, corn and chilies came from. Why stop there, when we can forget all about origins of all culinary traditions? Extending this argument even further, let us delete all our knowledge on human cultural history?

    There are hundreds of sites devoted to making rasgullas, but only a handful dedicated to its origin. That makes this nicely written blog really quite interesting.

    Of course, you do have a point - practically all recipes on-line pertain to the Kolkata white rasgulla which is quite simple. I'd certainly like to learn how to make the traditional brownish Oriya rasgullas. I'd welcome any recipe for those delectable, brownish-coloured Oriya rasgullas.

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  62. http://www.dailypioneer.com/358376/Rasgulla-has-its-origin-in-Jagannath-Temple-at-Puri.html

    Sunday Pioneer


    Rasgulla has its origin in Jagannath Temple at Puri
    August 04, 2011 10:01:28 PM

    PNS | Bhubaneswar

    A controversy over the origin of Rasgulla between Odisha and neighbouring West Bengal ended on a sweet note here on Wednesday.

    Rasgulla, also known as Khirmohan in Odia, was prevalent in the Sri Jagannath Temple at Puri during the 13th century. This was confirmed by Prof Utpal Raychoudhury of the department of food technology and biochemical of the Jadavpur University.

    Delicious Rasgulla is a very popular cheese-based, syrupy sweet dish throughout India and other parts of South Asia. It is made from balls of cheese and semolina dough and cooked in sugar syrup. In the middle of the nineteenth century, history says, the popularity of Rasgulla spread from Odisha to West Bengal. This was during a period when the Bengali cuisine borrowed heavily from the Odia culinary traditions.

    A sweet seller, Haradhan Moira, may have introduced the dish in Bengal. In the year 1868, Nobin Chandra Das, a local confectioner of Kolkata, simplified the recipe to make sponge Rasgullas. The Rasgulla has been a traditional offering to Goddess Lakshmi, the consort of the Puri temple's main deity Lord Jagannath. It is an age-old custom in the temple to offer Rasgullas to Devi Lakshmi inorder to assuage her feeling of wrath for being ignored by Sri Jagannath on the last day of the eleven-day long Rath Yatra. Lord Jagannath is allowed inside the temple only after offering Rasgulla to Devi Lakshmi.

    According to noted historian J Padhi, "The history of Rasgulla is more than 600 years old. It is as old as the Rath Yatra in Puri."

    On close examination of religious scriptures in Puri, Padhi as well as another researcher, SC Mahapatra, have discovered that this practice of offering Rasgullas to Devi Lakshmi dates back to at least 300 years. It is said that Bengali tourists to Puri might have carried the recipe for Rasgulla back to Bengal in the nineteenth century.

    And now, the Rasgulla making of Odisha is all set to go hi-tech with the Bikalananda Kar Memorial Trust introducing a certificate course in sweet-making technology in the State, which the first of its kinds in the country.

    This was announced by Prasant Kumar Kar of the Memorial Trust, Salepur. He said the course would be launched in collaboration with the Jadavpur University of Kolkata and it has already got the approval from the State Council for Technical Education and Vocational Training. A total of 64 skilled sweet makers would be trained in sweet-making by the Bikalananda Kar Industrial Training Centre, he added.

    Prof Utpal Raychoudhury said there are about 500 to 600 varieties of sweets across India and the students would be trained in both modern and traditional methods of sweet-making.

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  63. Rasgulla has its origin in Jagannath Temple at Puri
    August 04, 2011 10:01:28 PM

    PNS | Bhubaneswar

    A controversy over the origin of Rasgulla between Odisha and neighbouring West Bengal ended on a sweet note here on Wednesday.

    Rasgulla, also known as Khirmohan in Odia, was prevalent in the Sri Jagannath Temple at Puri during the 13th century. This was confirmed by Prof Utpal Raychoudhury of the department of food technology and biochemical of the Jadavpur University.



    Kamonasish tu kuade galu be?

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  64. http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/certificate-course-on-sweet-making-technology-soon/775495.html

    Certificate course on sweet making technology soon
    PTI | 09:08 PM,Aug 03,2011
    Bhubaneswar, Aug 3 (PTI) For those with a sweet tooth there is good news - a certificate course on sweet making technology, the first of its kind in the country, will be launched in Orissa soon in collaboration with Jadavpur University of Kolkata. "We have already got the approval from State Council for Technical Education and Vocational Training," said Prasant Kumar Kar, a famed rasgoola maker of Cuttack district and founder of Bikalananda Kar Memorial Trust, Salipur. A total of 64 skilled sweet makers would be trained in sweet making by Bikalananda Kar Industrial Training Centre, he added. "A large number of traditional sweets are now extinct.We will try to revive them through this institute," its principal Bibhuti Bhushan Patra said, adding the students would also be trained to prepare specific sweets for people suffering from different diseases. "We are already making sweets for diabetic patients." The sweet trade has a big future in the country, he said. Utpal Raychoudhury, Professor, Food Technology department of Jadavpur University said there are about 500 to 600 varieties of sweets across India and the students would be trained in both modern and traditional methods of sweet making. Good students are not joining the sweet trade due to lack of adequate technology and the new institute would fill the gap. Students who pass out from the institute would be given diploma in sweet technology by Jadavpur University, he added.

    Kamonasish to kuade galu be maaghia??

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  65. The rosogullas of pahal didnt last for a day....whereas the spongy rosogulla invented by nobin chandra das and thats what the whole world knows like that of BENGALS MISHTI DOI......Sorry orrisa wale when u say where does ROSHOGULLA belongs the answer would echo as BENGAL.....no use of shouting and ranting.....have some water and put ur vocal chords to rest

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  66. Famous Hindu mathematicians, poets, and philosophers: Aryabhatta (Kerala), Aryabhatta (Bihar), Bhaskara (Andhra), Brahmagupta (Gujarat), Susruta (North), Panini (Punjab), Kalidas (MP), Tansen (MP), Baiju Bawra (MP), Jayadeva (Orissa), Guru Nanak (Punjab), Buddha (Bihar), Mahavira (Bihar), Vatsyayana (Gujarat), Kabir (UP), Amir Khusrau (MP), Ramanuja (Tamil Nadu), Adi Shankara (Kerala), Mirabai (Rajasthan).

    NOT EVEN ONE FAMOUS BENGALI!


    Famous Indian kings and emperors: Ashoka (Bihar), Chandragupta Maurya (Bihar), Samudragupta (UP), Bimbisara (Bihar), Raja Raja Chola (Tamil), Akbar (Delhi), Krishna Deva Raya (Karnataka), Tipu Sultan (Andhra), Shivaji (Maharashtra), Kanishka (North India), Prithviraj Chauhan (Rajasthan), Vikramaditya (MP), Rani Lakshmiba of Jhansi (MP), Rajendra Chola (Tamil), Zamorin (Kerala), Ranjit Singh (Punjab).

    NOT EVEN ONE PROMINENT MONARCH FROM BENGAL!


    Famous Indian battlegrounds: Kurukshetra (Haryana), Panipat (Haryana), Haldi Ghati (Rajasthan), Pataliputra (Bihar), Puru-Alexander (Punjab), Vijayanagar-Bahmani (Andhra-Karnataka), Ashoka-Kalinga (Orissa).

    NOT ONE SITE IN BENGAL!


    Ancient Indian religious and philosophical centers: Varanasi (UP), Tirupati (Tamil Nadu), Haridwar (Uttarakhand), Nashik (Maharashtra), Ujjain (MP), Dwarka (Gujarat), Puri (Orissa), Prayag (UP), Mathura (UP), Ayodhya (UP).

    BUT NOT A SINGLE ANCIENT CITY FROM BENGAL!


    Classical Dances in India: Bharatanatyam (Tamil), Odissi (Orissa), Kuchipudi (Andhra), Manipuri (North East), Mohiniaattam (Kerala), Sattriya (Assam), Kathakali (Kerala), Kathak (Hindi states).

    BUT NOT A SINGLE CLASSICAL DANCE FROM BENGAL!


    Ancient UNESCO world heritage sites: Mahabodhi (Bihar), Hampi (Karnataka), Ellora (Maharashtra), Ajanta (Maharashtra), Mahabalipuram (Tamil Nadu), Konarak (Orissa), Khajuraho (MP).

    Medieval UNESCO world heritage sites: Qutb Minar (Delhi), Taj Mahal (UP), Red Fort (Delhi).

    Majestic palaces and forts: Lake palace, Udaipur (Rajasthan), Amber Fort (Rajasthan), Gwalior Fort (MP), Hawa Mahal (Rajasthan), Jantar Mantar (Delhi, Jaipur).

    Ancient universities and monasteries: Nalanda (Bihar), Taxila (Punjab/Pak), Ratnagiri (Orissa), Sanchi Stupa (MP), Vikramashila (Bihar).

    BUT NOT A SINGLE MONUMENT IN BENGAL!


    Bengalis are 15-20% of the entire population of South Asia. Yet they accomplished NOTHING until the British came and gifted them with Kolkata city and modern education. These Bengali macaques profited from British invasion when the rest of India was ruined.

    All Kolkata monuments are British gifts: Victoria memorial, Howrah bridge, St. Paul's Cathedral, Esplanade, etc. All the Bengali wimps did was to cover them up with a ton of paan spit and urine.

    Tagore, Bankim Chatterjee, Jagdish Bose - all a result of sycophancy towards the British. British ass-licker Tagore wrote Jana Gana Mana only to kowtow to the British overlords. The only truly "patriotic" poem he wrote was for ANOTHER country (Bangladesh). The rest of the Bengali chimpanzee "freedom fighters" were only motivated by the partition of Bengal. They hadn't raised a finger during 1857 when Mangal Pandey of UP had to lead the uprising in Kolkata.

    Now that the British are gone, all these ugly, dark, commie monkeys like Kamonasish Aayush Mazumdar manage to do it convert Kolkata into a garbage-ridden, stinking shithole and STEAL CREDIT FROM OTHER STATES, like claiming that Tansen was Bengali!

    So Kamonasish Aayush Mazumdar, you useless, bragging, Bengali bastard, where the hell have you disappeared? Wherever you're hiding don't ever forget your official Bengali status within India: you are well beneath the rest of us civilised Indians. You belong right at the bottom of the national pecking order.

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  67. So what is new? Bengalis have a habit of plagiarising from neighbouring states. They claim that famous MAITHILI BRAHMIN POET VIDYAPATI is Bengali.

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  68. Hindi classical singer Tansen is Bengali
    Maithili brahmin poet Vidyapati is Bengali
    Oriya poet Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is Bengali
    Oriya poet Jayadeva is Bengali
    Yeh saaley bangali sab ek jaise hi hain.

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  69. Chill out Oriya wale and get used to it.Bengalis are the most cultured ppl in India.Dont rant any more. Just ask anyone in the street in any state.

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  70. "Bengalis are the most cultured ppl in India."

    Most cultured people my ass! Which parallel universe are you from, you putrid sack of shit?

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  71. Why are we fighting over states, cultures and languages here? Why can't we just accept facts as they are?

    I agree that there are more Bengalis who have come into the limelight for their contributions in various fields in modern times but at the same time, the population of Bengali people is way larger than population of Odia people. This can also be attributed to good education because of strong and early British influence and clearly does not mean that Odia people are not as capable. Culturally, ancient traditions in Odisha are much strongly preserved in form the music, dance and other culture. On the other hand, Bengal witnessed a strong cultural revolution in the Tagore era, much like a renaissance, which has now become an integral part of Bengali culture. As far as languages are concerned, they are related and stem from a common ancestor, but the scripts are very different. Economically, Bengal is definitely stronger. Odisha is poorer and has lower level of average income, but it is also the fourth fastest growing state of India and catching up especially in the industrial sector.

    Coming to the original question, the Rasagolla and Rosogolla are different sweets in my opinion. Bengali Rosogolla did originate from the Odia Rasagolla but it has a different taste and purpose. Odia Rasagollas are to be enjoyed fresh and the caramelised sugar imparts a different taste. Which one is better is purely a matter of personal opinion. Most people outside Odisha would have never tasted the Odia variety (and probably Odia cuisine in general as well) but if they do get an opportunity then this is a sweet which is definitely not to be missed.

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  72. Swagat,

    There is no such thing as 'Bengali version' and 'Odia version'. There is the elaborate authentic rasgulla that began in Odisha and a pressure-cooker rasgulla started in Kolkata (yes, I know that NC Das didn't use one).

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  73. Please visit:
    http://odisharasgulla.blogspot.com/

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  74. LIES, DAMN LIES & NOBIN DAS!

    According to the K. C. Das website itself, friends of this supposed culinary Einstein advised him to patent his famous creation, the rasgulla.

    According the website:
    "Contrary to the advice of his friends and admirers to take out patents, he taught the intricacies of Rossogolla-making to numerous sweetmeat makers."

    Except that there was no patent law in India those days! The first ever legislation to protect intellectual property law had just been introduced in India! It was Act VI of 1856 on Protection of Inventions. It granted "exclusive privileges" to the inventor. The legislation was designed only to safeguard British colonial interests. Not surprisingly, the first petition was filed by an Englishman - a certain civil engineer by the name of George Alfred DePenning for his invention, "An Efficient Punkah Pulling Machine".

    The first real patent law enacted in India was the Indian Patents and Designs Act 1911. Even this law was to safeguard British colonial interests and not designed to protect Indian inventors. This led to the Indian Patents Act of 1970: the first patent law designed to protect the likes of Indian inventors such as Nobin Das, which was over a century since he masqueraded as the creator of the rasgulla.

    To claim that way back in 1858, Nobin Das & Co. thought about patenting the rasgulla proves that the entire story is a load of PURE, UNADULTERATED BULLCRAP!

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  75. ODIA LANGUAGE IS SIXTH CLASSICAL LANGUAGE AND FIRST FROM INDO-ARYAN GROUPFebruary 20, 2014 at 7:38 PM

    New Delhi/Bhubaneswar, Feb. 20: Odia today became the sixth language in India to get classical status following approval of the Union cabinet.

    The linguistic committee of the Sahitya Akademi had accepted the Odisha government’s claim in this regard and forwarded the proposal to the ministry of culture in July last.

    With today’s achievement, Odia is now in the same league with Tamil, Sanskrit, Kannada, Telugu and Malayalam. It is the first language from the Indo-Aryan group of languages to get the classical tag.

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  76. Hi everyone, checkout this post on Pahala Rasagola . Cheers :)

    http://101bhubaneswar.com/2015/02/13/006-taste-pahala-rasagola/

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  77. All greatness of bangalis came from the continued interracial breeding done with their women. Rest all know about bangalis.

    I couldn't understand who is the pure blood west Bengal or Bangladesh lol

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    1. All greatness of Bengalis is borrowed glory from the British Taj era when Bengali peasants gleefully handed over land to Job Charnok to build a 'city of cities'. Odias were composing the finest Sanskrit poetry, dancing to mellifluous classical music, and sculpting out breath-taking architectural wonders when the Bengalis were swinging in the trees.

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  78. All greatness of bangalis came from the continued interracial breeding done with their women. Rest all know about bangalis.

    I couldn't understand who is the pure blood west Bengal or Bangladesh lol

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  79. Nice to read this today on July 30 - celebrated as #RasagolaDibasa :)

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    1. Happy (belated) RASAGOLA DIBASA

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  80. Bongos from uncivilised Paschim Bongo Bongo land are pukka gandoos who were swinging in the trees when the ancient land of Kalinga existed. They have stolen so many inventions from Odisha.

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  83. Panel seal on rasgulla's Odisha origin
    Committee cites references from old texts to refute Bengal's claim

    (Thursday, 14 July 2016, The Telegraph)

    The committee formed to settle the issue of rasgulla's origin today confirmed that the sweet had its roots in Odisha.

    The state government had formed the committee to get the geographical indication (GI) tag for the sweet after Bengal staked its claim over the origin of the delicacy. The committee has submitted its report to the state government's department of science and technology.

    In its 100-page report to the state government, the committee has cited several references to stake claim to the origin of the sweet and prove the Bengal government's stand "wrong".

    The committee, which is headed by eminent Jagannath cult scholar Asit Mohanty, had submitted its interim report in September last year.

    In support of Odisha's claim, the committee has pointed to the sweet's reference in Dandi Ramayana, a version of the epic adapted by Balaram Das in the 16th century. Tracing the origin of the sweet, the report also claimed that the sweet was being offered to gods in mutts and temples for over 600 years.

    The committee has refuted Bengal's claim that rasgulla had reached Odisha under the influence of Shri Chaitanya. The neighbouring state had also claimed that chhena (cottage cheese), from which rasgulla is made, was invented in Bengal.

    The Mohanty committee in its report has also mentioned that selections from Odia literature published by Calcutta University in 1924 had references to the sweet's origin in Odisha. "After detailed research, we have gathered evidence that the sweet had a strong presence in the state. Now we will move forward and take the necessary steps to get the GI tag for the sweet," said science and technology minister Pradip Kumar Panigrahi.

    The state government had initiated the process to obtain GI tag for Pahala rasgulla in May. But the process got delayed after the Bengal government stepped in to stake its claim over the sweet's origin.

    The GI indication would confer legal protection to the Odisha rasgulla, along with preventing its unauthorised use. The first item from Odisha that received the GI tag was the Kotpad handloom fabric. At present, there are 14 items from the state on the list with patta chitra textile being the latest addition to it.

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    1. WINNERS: Patriotic Indians from Odisha
      LOSERS: Bongo Monkeys who plagiarise from neighbouring states ("Amader Bangla")

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    2. RESEARCH REVEALS RASAGOLLA'S AGE
      Iconic Sweet “Rasagolla” has a history of 500 years in Odisha, said Asit Mohanty, an acclaimed Literateur.


      Presenting an well researched 100 page document on Odisha’s Rasagolla to the Minister Science and Technology Pradeep Kumar Panigrahi here today, Mr.Mohanty quoted Dandi Ramayan.

      Dandi Ramayan was scripted by Balaram Das(1472-1550) in which mention of Rasagolla is there.

      So history of Rasagolla is of 500 years. So Odisha has the right to ask for the Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) to the ‘Rosogolla’, said Mr.Mohanty in his document.

      Providing clinching evidence on ‘Rasagolla’, Mr.Mohanty urged the State Government to demand for a Geographical Indication (GI) for the iconic sweet.

      Mr.Mohanty said there are multiple references to ‘Rosogolla’ in ancient literature and those are recorded evidences.

      West Bengal Government has been working on its claim for a GI registration for a year, say it was first produced by Nabin Chandra Dash around 1868.

      Across the border, Odia literateurs say the sweet is found in many works well before 1868.

      Marshalling ‘evidence’, Mr. Mohanty says a cottage cheese sweet is described by Balaram Das (1472-1550), Brajanath Badajena (1730-1800) and Abhimanyu Samantsinghar (1760-1806).

      “So, Nabin Chandra Dash could be considered the Columbus of ‘Rosogolla’ who discovered it in Odisha,” says Mr. Mohanty.

      Around 1843, Rev. Amos Sutton, a Missionary, talks of ‘Rosokora,’ hinting at juicy ‘Rosogolla’ in syrup, in an English-Odia dictionary, the claim goes.

      Odisha is also citing Pundit Suryanarayan Dash’s Sahitya Akademi award-winning ‘Odia Sahitya ra Itihasa,’ which mentions ‘Dandi Ramayan’ and its pointers to Odia food including ‘Rosogolla’.

      The ancient Odia dictionary “Purnachandra Bhasakosha’ talks of a cheese sweet in jaggery syrup.

      Mr.Mohanty said there is mention of ‘Rasagolla” in Balmiki Ramayan, which has been quoted by Bijaya Chandra Majumdar in his “Typical Selection from Oriya Literature” published in 1924 by Calcutta University.

      Erstwhile King of Sonepur Maharajah Virmitradaya Singh Deo provided financial support for such a research and Sir Ashutosh Mukherjee has written Pre Face of the Book.

      Citing several other examples from literature, the Kendriya Sahitya Akademi Winner has urged the State Government to demand for GI, which is needed most.

      Minister Mr.Panigrahi was very happy to receive the document and said his department will examine it and will take up the issue, which will bring worldwide honor for the State.

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  84. HAPPY RASAGOLLA DIBAS to the first blog that started this movement.

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  85. WISHING ALL ODIA AND OTHER INDIAN BRETHREN* A VERY HAPPY RASGULLA DIWAS!
    *EXCEPT PAROCHIAL BONGO SAVAGES WHO TRIED TO STEAL CREDIT FOR ODIA CULTURAL ICONS.

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    1. VERY SPECIAL GREETINGS TO THIS BLOGGER WHO WROTE THE FIRST BLOG ON THE ORIGIN OF RASGULLA!

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  86. VERY SPECIAL GREETINGS TO ANITA (ANITA EXPLORER) TOO!

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  87. West Bengal has decided to back down from its original claim that Nobin Das invented the rasgulla. It now states that it wants a GI tag for only the Banglar rasogolla and has clarified that it has no conflict with Odisha. This comes after the Odisha government compiled 130 pages of historical evidence that the sweet was being prepared in the kitchens of the Puri temple for at least 500 years. As it stands now: RASAGOLLA ORIGINATED IN ODISHA!

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  88. Definition Of Bengali-" Root less ,history less, culture less British made mother fucker Bastard"

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  89. What we have. We were Britishers' clerks and peons. AT least Odisha have classical dance, Classical music(Oldest form of classical music in India, Gopal Nayak from Ganjam was an court singer of Allauddin Khilji, Krushna Chandra Badjena Mohapatra was a court singer for Akbar.There are more than 20 sanskrut treatise on Odissi music)classical language, Kalinga school of temple architecture,Patta and Saura school of indigenous paintings,Sambalpuri, Bomkai,etc textile designs,Overseas empire of Kaling in the past,N numbers of folk dances(we Bengalis have nothing), Pramod Pati- the father of Indian new wave cinema(I&B ministry named an award as Pramod Pati award for most innovative film on International level.he died at the age of 43 in 1975 and was awarded in 26 countries). Last but not least Odisha has Jagannath Tatwa and its Darshan(Phylosophy). SO, it does not require anything. No one is poor. One becomes poor when one wants more and can't afford it. It had great emperor-Kharvela. British entered India through Bengal in 1747. We Bengalis helped them to capture rest of India. After 50 yrs of British education, we Bengalis realized that we are not free and First freedom fighter in entire India was Jai Rajguru an Odia . British captured Odisha as late as in 1803 and freedom revolution immediately started. First mass revolution was even not 1857 Sepoy revolution but 1817-Paikaw revolution started from Khurda in Odisha. The first lady sound engineer is not from Metros like Calcutta or Mumbao or Delhi but from Bhubaneswar- Namita Nayak originally from Ganjam. I feel proud that i can speak Odia, Tes Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is Odia son of Jagannath Mishra. Guru of singer Tansen(Tanna Mishra not Pandey)was Swami Hari das from Puri. SO, we Bengalis must learn how to digest the truth. No British will come to help us now,

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